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tk4235
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Merhaba,
Belirli bir yukseklikten (yoksa hiz mi?) sonra neden hiz olcumunde mach'e gecildigi konusunda bilgi verebilecek varsa cok sevinirim.
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Most aircraft have a Vne and an Mne - obviously the relationship between the two is a function of height.

So at lower altitudes it's always CAS/IAS that's the big player - at altitude IAS becomes fairly small but Mach becomes much more significant. Since that becomes your operating limit, it makes sense to use it for other purposes as well.

Example (fictional aeroplane) Vne=300kn, Mne=0.7. At ISA S/L conditions 300kn = 0.45M, so you can ignore Mach and fly to IAS limits quite safely.

However at FL240, 300 kn=0.7M, and at FL 300, 300kn=0.85M - well above Mne. So above FL240 you may as well ignore IAS (well apart from for converting to TAS for Navigation anyway) and use Mach all the time.

The Mach number/CAS relationship changes only with pressure altitude. (which is why some manuals specify a change over altitude)

The TAS changes with temperature.

Not:Vaktim olmadığı için türkçeye çeviremedim,en kısa sürede bilgi vericem.
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Cevabiniz icin cok tesekkurler Berhan Kaptanim.

Yazdiklariniz dogrultusunda havadaki ses hizi konusunda biraz arastirma yaptim. Anladigim kadariyla ses hizi sicaklik dustukce azaliyor. Bu da yukseklik arttikca ses hizinin dustugunu gosterir (troposferde).

Belirttiginiz gibi bir MNE hizi varsa yukseklik arttikca bu hizin onemi artiyor. Ornegin FL100'de 300 nm/s 0.65 mach ederken FL300'de 0.80 mach edebiliyor. Bu da ucagin MNE'sine denk geliyorsa sorun demek oluyor. Bu nedenle yuksek irtifada mach'a dikkat etmek icin mach'e geciliyor.

Simdilik MNE gibi bir limitin neden oldugu konusuna girmeyi pek gozum yemiyor :)

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